“God in the Hands of Angry Sinners”
I thought that was an amazing phrase. I have not listened to this particular sermon, but I wanted to post this as I am heading out of town. However, I heard him (perhaps in another sermon; someone else was playing it on her computer) preaching on these points, and I thought it was a very interesting perspective. For example, in the one I overheard, he challenged the view you will often get from conventional preachers, where it comes off as if God the Father is getting ready to send everyone to hell but then Jesus gets His angry Dad to calm down. Kruger argues that this view is at odds with the Trinity.
Of course, if some of you think he is misstating Scripture, feel free to challenge him in the comments.
This is the first I have listened to Dr Kruger and I’m not sure what to make of his message here. There’s no doubt the Bible describes Christ as willingly delivering himself into the hands of angry sinners. And that *is* a profound observation. But he seems to be trying to set that up as the AHA moment in an argument against the reformed teaching that Christ saves us from the wrath of God. Unfortunately, the simple fact that both statements contain the idea of wrath is not sufficient to set one in opposition to the other.
There are some other troubling concepts that seem to be coming out in this message and my interest is piqued to go read/listen to more of his work to see what the broader context of his teaching contains. I’m not hopeful.
For context, I’m a longtime Christian who has, over the years migrated firmly into the reformed baptist tradition (1689)