This is a neat interview that I just finished. Near the end, Norman and Tom make (separate) points that I heartily endorse. (Note that in the below I am paraphrasing and might make the points the way I typically do, but they are definitely consistent with what Norman and Tom said.)
==> Around 15:15, Norman says that even though he’s not an outright pacifist, he does think that people give violence too much credit for achieving social change. For example, when you bring up the idea of violent resistance to the State, people take it for granted that it “worked” when the American colonists used it against King George. But hold on a second–why are we debating right now how to push back a tyrannical government, if the violent American revolution was such a smashing success?
==> Around 18:00, Tom makes the exact same point that I was trying to make with my blog post yesterday: Atheist libertarians get huffy with the Christian libertarians, as if we from scratch came up with a theology intending to make things uncomfortable for Rothbardianism. Well no, we didn’t make this stuff up; we encountered a tradition of belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ etc. etc. that we believe is true. We actually believe that the God described in the Christian Bible exists. In the face of such a possibility, it’s a bit petty to be fretting over Romans 13.