OK here is the whole episode; our segment starts a little after the 13:00 mark.
In the studio at Nashville, I just have an audio connection, and I didn’t know who the other two guests were. I thought the guy was Italian, and I pictured the woman as in her 50s and matronly. I couldn’t believe how politically incorrect the “Italian” guy was being, and I couldn’t understand why the Judge was so deferential to the “matron” with her stereotypical leftist talking points.
Now I get it.